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 Post subject: Love Me Tender Question
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:21 pm 
LOL I tried to look for the english one but it's not on YT.

The thing that has always puzzled me when watching LMT, is the scene where after Vance (Richard Egan) and his brothers escape from the train, Vance orders his brothers to take back the money and all of the guns ( 'Get it and their Guns') held by Mike (Neville Brand) and the two other guys.
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But at 1:19:14 Hey Presto, Mike (Neville Brand) draws out another Gun :roll: Can anyone explain that ?
Very poor effort on the scriptwriters part.


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 Post subject: Re: Love Me Tender Question
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:50 am 
UPDATE

These are the two scenes I was talking about -






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 Post subject: Re: Love Me Tender Question
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:27 am 
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Hidden guns?
Or more likely just a script error. I don't think there was too much quality control on B-pictures of that era, and LMT would probably fit that description


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 Post subject: Re: Love Me Tender Question
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:32 am 
Maybe Brand had another one concealed in his underpants :damnfunny

Hell 'Technical Advisor', Colonel Tom Parker should have picked on the scriptwriters error :damnfunny


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 Post subject: Re: Love Me Tender Question
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:14 am 
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The film came out 58 years ago and only now this error is noticed!
This proves Parker's point any movie with Elvis would be a success even if he walked from one side of the screen to the other side and back. :cheers


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:25 am 
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Walter, this should go in the Blooper Reel section for archival purposes. Nice find.


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 Post subject: Re: Love Me Tender Question
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:50 am 
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Walter, this should go in the Blooper Reel section for archival purposes. Nice find.


You're right, John. The 'Bloopers' section is one of a few features i hardly touch. Nothing I can do about moving it however.

It's a wonder how, when you got many people in the cast and crew working a motion picture, that somebody did not pick up on the storyline error.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:04 pm 
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WalterHale2 wrote:
John wrote:
Walter, this should go in the Blooper Reel section for archival purposes. Nice find.


You're right, John. The 'Bloopers' section is one of a few features i hardly touch. Nothing I can do about moving it however.

It's a wonder how, when you got many people in the cast and crew working a motion picture, that somebody did not pick up on the storyline error.

All too common, happens all the time.


Last edited by Andrew on Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Thread moved to "Blooper Reel"


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 Post subject: Re: Love Me Tender Question
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:54 pm 
John wrote:
Walter, this should go in the Blooper Reel section for archival purposes. Nice find.
WalterHale2 wrote:
You're right, John. The 'Bloopers' section is one of a few features i hardly touch.
Nothing I can do about moving it however.
It's a wonder how, when you got many people in the cast and crew working a motion picture, that somebody did not pick up on the storyline error.
John wrote:
All too common, happens all the time.


You'd think the actors themselves would spot these anomalies, wouldn't you ?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:43 pm 
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ColinB wrote:
John wrote:
Walter, this should go in the Blooper Reel section for archival purposes. Nice find.
WalterHale2 wrote:
You're right, John. The 'Bloopers' section is one of a few features i hardly touch.
Nothing I can do about moving it however.
It's a wonder how, when you got many people in the cast and crew working a motion picture, that somebody did not pick up on the storyline error.
John wrote:
All too common, happens all the time.


You'd think the actors themselves would spot these anomalies, wouldn't you ?


A movie is filmed during 6 weeks to several months.
Scenes are not filmed in sequence.
That is why actors nor crew notice anything unusual.
That is a job for the continuity-person.
That is why there are wardrobe photos taken so the actor wears the same clothes for a certain scene even though segments of the scene may be shot 4 weeks apart.


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 Post subject: Re: Love Me Tender Question
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:12 am 
WalterHale2 wrote:
LOL I tried to look for the english one but it's not on YT.

The thing that has always puzzled me when watching LMT, is the scene where after Vance (Richard Egan) and his brothers escape from the train, Vance orders his brothers to take back the money and all of the guns ( 'Get it and their Guns') held by Mike (Neville Brand) and the two other guys.
Scroll to 59:30 -

[youtube]Be318r0i7KY[/youtube]

But at 1:19:14 Hey Presto, Mike (Neville Brand) draws out another Gun :roll: Can anyone explain that ?
Very poor effort on the scriptwriters part.




They script writers forgot what they wrote? lol

Or, the gun was well hidden and no-one wanted to pat anyone down, lol


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 Post subject: Re: Love Me Tender Question
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:14 am 
ColinB wrote:
John wrote:
Walter, this should go in the Blooper Reel section for archival purposes. Nice find.
WalterHale2 wrote:
You're right, John. The 'Bloopers' section is one of a few features i hardly touch.
Nothing I can do about moving it however.
It's a wonder how, when you got many people in the cast and crew working a motion picture, that somebody did not pick up on the storyline error.
John wrote:
All too common, happens all the time.


You'd think the actors themselves would spot these anomalies, wouldn't you ?




LOL, you would think so, Colin.

A long day and everyone wanted to go home, writers' prerogative?


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Luuk wrote:
ColinB wrote:
John wrote:
Walter, this should go in the Blooper Reel section for archival purposes. Nice find.
WalterHale2 wrote:
You're right, John. The 'Bloopers' section is one of a few features i hardly touch.
Nothing I can do about moving it however.
It's a wonder how, when you got many people in the cast and crew working a motion picture, that somebody did not pick up on the storyline error.
John wrote:
All too common, happens all the time.


You'd think the actors themselves would spot these anomalies, wouldn't you ?


A movie is filmed during 6 weeks to several months.
Scenes are not filmed in sequence.
That is why actors nor crew notice anything unusual.
That is a job for the continuity-person.
That is why there are wardrobe photos taken so the actor wears the same clothes for a certain scene even though segments of the scene may be shot 4 weeks apart.



Colin,

Your quote reminds me of director, Denis Sanders, during the rehearsal filming of TTWII, asking Elvis and the band to wear the same clothes on two different dates during rehearsals (July 14, 1970 & July 24, 1970) so to as to "preserve continuity."

Another blooper in LMT is in one scene where you can see car headlights in the distance through a window - with the film being set during the Civil War era, this was a huge boo-boo!!!
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...Another blooper in LMT is in one scene where you can see car headlights in the distance through a window - with the film being set during the Civil War era, this was a huge boo-boo!!!


I thought this was something of a myth !

Has anyone actually seen these headlights ?

There was something seen moving on the VHS version, but when seen on DVD, it turned out to be a bag or whatever blowing about.

When we last discussed this, I offered these screen grabs:

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We went over it a few years ago on this thread ... love-me-tender-t29.html

Your photobucket images have since disappeared from that topic, Colin. But you did convince me that the headlights thing is just a myth.


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We went over it a few years ago on this thread ... love-me-tender-t29.html

Your photobucket images have since disappeared from that topic, Colin. But you did convince me that the headlights thing is just a myth.


I've just re-posted them above....
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I mentioned the "car headlights" because this blooper is also mentioned in the 600+ page book, "Elvis: His Life From A To Z" by Fred Worth & Steve Tamerius. The book very badly needs updating since it was first written way back in the late 1980s (1988).

The quote in the book is: "Blooper: In a night scene in which Debra Paget can be seen in her room crying, a car can be seen in the background."

So, Colin posted the incorrect pictures.


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 Post subject: Re: Love Me Tender Question
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Tony Trout wrote:
I mentioned the "car headlights" because this blooper is also mentioned in the 600+ page book, "Elvis: His Life From A To Z" by Fred Worth & Steve Tamerius. The book very badly needs updating since it was first written way back in the late 1980s (1988).

The quote in the book is: "Blooper: In a night scene in which Debra Paget can be seen in her room crying, a car can be seen in the background."

So, Colin posted the incorrect pictures.


I'll try to see if I can see the headlights in the Debra Paget scene.
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ColinB wrote:
Tony Trout wrote:
I mentioned the "car headlights" because this blooper is also mentioned in the 600+ page book, "Elvis: His Life From A To Z" by Fred Worth & Steve Tamerius. The book very badly needs updating since it was first written way back in the late 1980s (1988).

The quote in the book is: "Blooper: In a night scene in which Debra Paget can be seen in her room crying, a car can be seen in the background."

So, Colin posted the incorrect pictures.


I'll try to see if I can see the headlights in the Debra Paget scene.


Cool. If you can see them, post a screenshot/screengrab here. Maybe then we can put this little "mystery" behind us. :)

(For the record, I've got "Love Me Tender" on DVD but - shamefully - I have never watched the film - and I'm not technically smart enough to try a screenshot. The only Elvis film that I'm missing on DVD is "Loving You").


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